Everybody is entitled to that feeling, children adults and the elderly. ", Add your answer to THIS question | Ask a NEW walking and hiking question, Return to the main list of Walking and Hiking Questions, Search for an existing Walking and Hiking Question or Answer, Home > Questions & Answers about Walking & Hiking. The harder bits in the gully can all be bypassed by scrambling along the edge. Jack's Rake. So in terms of children going up, I'd say it depends which route you take - I'm annoyed with myself that maybe I missed the correct route and for whatever reason felt I needed to go out to faces that hung above sheer drops because they were the only way, and from reading other accounts I'm not the first to do this. Achievable for most but not for the faint hearted. I was taken up far more exposed and demanding routes by I was 8 but then I was quite used to it and my dad knew what he was doing. Indeed many have fallen from such scrambles. It is for the most part sheltered from the sheer drop of the mountainside with breathtaking views. In these conditions the route was a completely different animal to the one tackled on previous occasions. Have fun! For those who do not already know, a roof rake is like a snow shovel, but with a really long handle. However a slip could still cause problems. I'm not immortal and have a healthy sense of fear that tells me when I am about to do something stupid, nor am I arrogant - I know that I am a mere fly on a mountain, something inconsequential. read more, An enjoyable but exposed scramble, not for the faint-hearted. The 1st 70m are the hardest though there are plenty of handholds. Jack's Rake is a serious place on which to make a mistake. 0 comment. I can only assume that you are referring to Trail magazine. One of the safest ways to take care of your roof is to use a roof rake. There really needs to be some kind of warning with magazine articles, which all too often assume a certain level of experience. Jack's Rake can be seen or even challenged whilst walking in the area. A. Jacks Rake was my first ever scramble, picked because it was listed as grade one. The couple I met 800M up Ben Nevis dressed in trainers, her in leggings, him in jeans... in December. A. I have done it many times on my own and leading groups. Jack's Rake invovles grade 1 scrambling. Well done to those parents in this forum. If you are a parent taking children then you had better make sure you have the correct experience; also make sure you have a rope and the ability to bring your kids along safely should they feel they need it. Last summer we decided to take our three daughters, age 10,12 and 14, up The Langdales. However I recently attempted to climb this route in winter conditions, the whole route was covered in snow & ice. go4awalk.com uses a 9 point grading system based on the length of the walk and the amount of ascent (and descent) encountered. I only wish that I had had a parent who had provided this calculated risk for me when I was younger. Its grading is easy – it is the easiest of the recognised climbs in the Langdale area. Sadly the more people do a mildly risky move (scrambling is by definition more dangerous than flatland walking) the more people will suffered discomfort or hurt. Well defined and pitched paths throughout. Fig rolls would taste horrid if you had to first eat through a wrapping of cotton wool. This is where a large left-footed step is necessary - I am 5 foot 9 inches and found it hard (also I am extremely right-footed and my natural move is to my right side), so a child or small person with short steps would have problems. These 2 were fit young people and they turned back the moment they hit the snowline: i.e. Now THAT is stupid and irresponsible but taking a 12 year old on a scramble or climb that is reasonably within their ability is not IMHO stupid or mad! Sent my nine year old boy up a couple of moves ahead of me and he breezed it. Without conquering our fears we do not improve as human beings. Pavey Ark and Harrison Stickle dominate the shore of the tarn. Walk Ideas and Collections    So if you can't take children on a grade 1 scramble, where does that leave them with climbing? Even MRT can fall foul of this kind of arrogance; I've been called an "idiot" a few times by bigots (a few times perhaps justifiably, I grant). Sorry, but your browser does not appear to be accepting our cookies. Was very nervous because, yes there are some bits where if you slip, you are in for a very long fall indeed! and is starting to lead Diffs. 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